12.19.2008 | 8:41 am

Inevitable Pitchfork Top 50 Discussion Thread

Spoiler: Fleet Foxes ftw! I’m excited to see ‘em win (and my album of the year, Cut Copy, in the top five) and a little shocked that No Age didn’t take the top spot — I figured they’d be a lock for it, given the band’s blend of post-Sonic Youth experimentalism and vegan cookie-eating. (Though talented, they will not be on my list.)

(Photo by Frank Chromewaves)

I won’t go into the rest of the list, which you can see here, mostly because nit-picking anyone else’s list but your own is a fool’s errand, but, An explanation: Pitchfork gets a lot of play here, much more so than any other music publication. Why? I grew up reading the site; in high school, their ’90s lists and early ’00s picks — back before they grew infatuated with hip-hop, expanded the staff, and started breaking away from the guitar-centric indie rock that initially defined them — helped shape my taste. For a while, they were exceedingly trustworthy for my weekly record store trips (minus Neon Golden, ugh). So it’s been fascinating and occasionally disappointing to watch them expand their range of coverage and adapt to the shifting currents of what’s left of indie over the years. (I think “indie” has about as much meaning left as “alternative” did when we started using it in reference to Nickelback, but that’s another post.)

Anyway, folks, chime in — as indie’s biggest arbiters, where did Pitchfork go right and wrong? I’m not happy about the absence of Okkervil River and Lambchop, especially given how boring that Bonnie “Prince” Billy album that made the cut is, and I was crossing my fingers for Gentleman Jesse. (Another thought: As good as Fleet Foxes are — and I love ‘em — does their album even come close to Yankee Hotel Foxtrot or You Forgot It In People or Alligator or any of the decade’s best? Nah. Bum year.)

And since I know you’re wondering: The Rawking Refuses To Stop!‘s top 50 songs list will be posted on Tuesday. The best non-2008 discoveries of the year goes up Wednesday, and in a Christmas miracle, albums of the year will be posted on Thursday. I’ll see you then.

  • Anonymous

    someday you’ll come around on Neon Golden…it’s on my all time list!

  • David Greenwald

    Six years later, it still has two awesome songs and a lot of aimless glitch-folk fluff. Maybe it would’ve been more revelatory if it had come out a few years earlier, but post-Kid A/Amnesiac, I don’t see it being more than barely above average. I like the new one better and that one’s boring, too.

  • nb

    unforgivable omissions = furr, parc avenue

  • Tim J

    Man they hated Skeletal Lamping. Also, Mt. Eerie’s Dawn/Man Man’s Rabbit Habits/Chad Vangaalen’s Soft Airplane should be at least honorable mentions.

    Here’s my top 15

    1. Of Montreal – Skeletal Lamping
    2. The Music Tapes – Music Tapes for Clouds and Tornadoes
    3. Man Man – Rabbit Habits
    4. Mount Eerie – Dawn
    5. Chad Vangaalen – Soft Airplane
    6. Lucky Dragons – Dream Island Laughing Language
    7. Tallest Man on Earth – Shallow Graves
    8. Deerhunter – Microcastle
    9. Ruby Suns – Sea Lion
    10. Okay – Huggable Dust
    11. Conor Oberst – Conor Oberst
    12. Destroyer – Trouble in Dreams
    13. Sigur Ros
    14. Destroyer – Trouble in Dreams
    15. King Khan and the Shrines – The supreme Genius of….

  • Tim J

    oops somehow destroyer got in there twice

  • Wayne

    I could never call Bonnie Prince Billy boring.

    Notable omissions, for me-
    Wolf Parade
    Blitzen Trapper
    Plants and Animals
    Destroyer
    Miles Benjamin Anthony Robinson

  • David Greenwald

    I have the guy’s whole catalog and porch-sitting country-rock is just not his strong suit. Dude’s no Willie.

  • Anonymous

    Agreed. He’s at his best with material like I See a Darkness and The Letting Go. I liked a lot of the LDITL songs (esp. You Want That Picture) on their own, but the album as a whole bored me.

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